in
Forums
Blogs
DevExpress.com
Client Center
Support Center
DevExpress Channel

Gary's Blog

Chrome OS – A new Operating System from Google

What is Google’s Chrome OS?
I go away on holiday, not turning my back for five minutes, and what happens? Google go and announce a new operating system (Chrome OS). Can I not leave you alone for two minutes? You’re worse than the kids! Seriously though, what is this Chrome OS then? Well, it’s an operating system that will be “initially targeted at netbooks”, but Google hope to roll it out to desktops too. It will be open source, based on the Linux kernel and Google are already working with technology companies (Acer, Adobe, ASUS, Freescale, HP, Lenovo, Qualcomm, Texas Instruments and Toshiba) to ensure that it will be available on netbooks when it ships during the second half of 2010.

What is the hype around Chrome OS?
Not surprisingly, such an announcement from Google has created a lot of buzz and hype on the Internet, typical of the response is this from Rob Enderle, President of the Enderle Group

“This is huge! This is the first time we have a truly competitive OS on the market in years.”

Well this is clearly hype and doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. Firstly, since Chrome OS doesn’t ship until the second half of 2010 there is no real way to tell at the moment if it, is or is not, going to be competitive (more on this later) but even if it is, it’s hardly “the first time in years” that this has happened. New, niche, distros of Linux are respun on a fairly frequent basis. If they are lucky they get a small but dedicated following but never really go anywhere; and under the hood, Chrome OS is just a Linux respin.

Is Chrome OS a Microsoft Killer?
Google’s stated aim with Chrome OS is to challenge Microsoft’s current market dominance. With over 90% of the desktop OS market Microsoft are the obvious target for any company wanting to gain market share. But then there’s the issue Google face straight away, that 90% relates to Microsoft’s share of the desktop OS market, is Chrome OS really going to be able to compete there? Look at the use cases for a PC user (as apposed to a netbook user). Gaming? Nope, can’t do that on Chrome OS. Photo and video editing? Nope, can’t do that out of the box with Chrome OS. Music ripping and creation? Nope, can’t do that out of the box with Chrome OS? You get the idea? On the desktop, Chrome OS in no way competes with the current OSs in the market place.

So what about Google’s stated initial target for Chrome OS, the netbook? Well, Google does have certain advantages here. Firstly, Chrome OS will be free. I had to smirk when I saw this for the first time. Google aggressively entering a market place by giving away a product that the market leader currently charges a premium for, does that tactic sound at all familiar to you? Secondly, Chrome OS will be targeted specifically at this platform, so the user experience will be much more rewarding than that of a general operating system. Thirdly, there is, umm… well nothing really. That’s it. When you look at it like that Chrome OS doesn’t seem to have that strong a position. For a start the sub-notebook market is small and not one that Microsoft has been that interested in recently, though that may change now of course. As for Google giving away Chrome OS, well I’m sure MS could easily afford to give away a netbook only version of Windows 7. Whether or not they do of course is another story, as that opens up a “whole can of worms”. Giving away an OS sets a precedent and will open MS up to pressure to give away other versions; say Windows 2000 to third world countries for instance. However, giving away a netbook version is a road they could go down, to compete with Google, if the need arose.

So will Chrome OS rock on the netbook?
As an evangelist, I’m a bit of a digital nomad, I have and use extensively a Acer AspireOne netbook running Windows 7 RC1, and so I’m the target market for Chrome OS, so let’s see how it will fair with my use cases.

Firstly, travelling to Leeds to present at a user group meeting. This means a four hour train ride for me and so I want to download the currently unread items from the DevExpress forums, into Thunderbird, so that I can read and answer them during my train journey. When I arrive at the hotel I want to use the wifi there, or my mobile dongle, to connect to the Internet and upload my replies to the forum. Currently I can do this. With Chrome OS I can’t.

Secondly, travelling to LA to demo XAF and XPO at PDC means an 11 hour plane ride. During that journey I want to write blog posts, read and respond to email, and get up to date with what is happening in the blogosphere. Currently, using a mixture of Outlook, Windows Live Writer and my favourite RSS reader I can do this. With Chrome OS I can’t.

The pattern here is a simple one. If my netbook runs Chrome OS and I can’t connect to the Net, then what I have is a 300 dollar paperweight.

What about Chrome OS on the desktop?
On the desktop the story is even worse. The above holds true, without connectivity the Chrome OS netbook is a brick, but even with connectivity the purely desktop tasks – video editing say – rely on someone creating a service to do that which will run on Google’s servers. Once someone has created such a service you can carry out these tasks, until they do you can’t get your work done. Unless of course you have one of the many desktop OSs already available in the market place for which companies have already written mature applications to carry out these tasks.

Can we trust Google?
The biggest issue I think that faces Google in this area, however, is one of trust. At the end of the day Google is not an operating system company, it is an advertising company. If you read the EULA that Google issues that cover anything you upload to their severs (and that includes your work in Google Apps) then you will see it gives them quite a lot of rights over it. Ever sent an email to a friend, in Google Mail, recommending a product, only to see ads for that – or competing products – show up the next time you use Google Mail? Think what it could be like once everyone is sending more and more of their data to the Google cloud. Is this what we really want? At the end of the day, it could be this fact, rather than it’s lack of functionality, that retards it’s uptake amongst netbook owners. I’m interested to know what you guys think though, so please feel free to leave your thoughts in the comments. Right, time to get back to my holiday, where did I put that beer…

Published Jul 10 2009, 08:26 AM by Gary Short (Developer Express)
Filed under:
Technorati tags: Outside DXperience

Comments

 

Chris Walsh [DX-Squad] said:

Bout time, this OS won't go anywhere for a while...  Sure, for the 5% of netbook users that just browse the web, but for the other 95% this won't work...

July 10, 2009 3:45 AM
 

skeptik said:

Some off-line operations should be possible with Google Gears.

July 10, 2009 5:06 AM
 

Wake Up said:

I think your comments about it "being a brick" or not being able to read your RSS feeds or write your blog posts are quite short sighted, if not wholly inaccurate. There are plenty of web apps that currently work offline and sync on reconnect - Google Gears being the most common framework for doing this that I know of, with support for GMail, Reader, Docs, etc. This sort of support is growing incredibly rapidly already.

In terms of CPU intensive tasks, you're right - there's not much support for this at the moment. There are some photo editing web apps, but I'm sure they're no Photoshop. What you haven't mentioned though is the rapid increase in browser functionality, including AIR, Silverlight, HTML5 and Google's Native Client that do support this - the latter being the most interesting of course as it allows native code execution (within a tight security model of course - will be interesting to see how the security aspects play out).

In short, I'd advise less "damn kids, get off my lawn" and more "let's start preparing for this" lest you be left in a cloud of dust.

July 10, 2009 5:37 AM
 

Nelson Henriques said:

Sure it will not be a killer at all for Microsoft in anyway as it will be a stripped down Linux up to its kernel and using (i supose...) mainly web applications in online and offline modes based/using Chrome browser in a internet browser like GUI... you not going to have a chance to play that great online games most of us love nor not will let you do some work on the go if you are a graphic designer or a DJ to mix tracks live in the clubs.... but will make Microsoft out of the netbook and MID market sooner or later as more and more people is buying them as they are a usefeull way to go online anywere you go without have to carry laptop bags nor cables and all its weight... just slipping them in your every day handbag or suitcase.

And as we have been seeing in the last few years... many applications have been moving to the internet, such full office applications (like GoogleDOCS or Windows Live Office) nedia players and even a live video production studio (like LiveStream).

Sure it may not kill the big Microsoft nor others Linux distros at all but... hey ... they are thinking about what most of the people whants... a quick boot up and ready to go to check your mail or chat and same time saving you time and "money"... and make a big step towards the future of an "Web connected World"

July 10, 2009 6:02 AM
 

Miha Markic said:

The real question is where are we getting DevEx components for Chrome OS 8-P

July 10, 2009 6:03 AM
 

Craig said:

Sure, over a ten year period they may eventually edge into single digit market share, but not much more. For the home market, as soon as people turn it on and realize that they can't install Office, they will take it back to the shop and ask for a refund. Web office apps are definitely getting more popular, but they are still a long long way from achieving mainstream usage.

July 10, 2009 6:37 AM
 

Jamie da Silva said:

I think Nelson has the right perspective.  I don't think Google OS is about competing with Windows 7 or Linux.  This is about expanding/establishing the marker for 'normal' people or even a second device for the 'PC user' type.  Heck they could even stick this in as an alternate quick boot OS for checking mail and such on notebooks as well.  A lot of the 'net seems to think this is head to head, but I think they are missing the point.  twitter.com/.../2536972219

July 10, 2009 6:54 AM
 

Rachel Hawley (Developer Express) said:

I agree with you Craig, personally as someone who finds anything outside of MS Office wholly terrifying I think that office-style web apps are a long way off for the Joe Bloggs user (I'm allowed to say that because I *am* a Joe Bloggs user ... or maybe a Joanne Bloggs user).

I am curious about Google's motivation for this. I wonder whether it is a tactic to gain a better foothold in the document search arena. Whilst I agree that competition is healthy, it just seems that a fouray into document/enterprise search, up against big players like Autonomy and (to a certain extent) MS, they are going to be hard pressed to gain any traction.

@ Wake Up - I am sure I probably underestimate the number of users who rely on GMail, Google Docs etc as an alternative to a defacto standard like Office. But, as I say, as a Joanna Bloggs user, I think this is a bit of a big stretch for the common or garden pc user. But assuming a netbook demographic, where their main use is floating around on the web, I can see the point you're making.  

Interesting discussion none the less though :)

July 10, 2009 7:00 AM
 

Battle of Gagra » Blog Archive » Avid Technology said:

Pingback from  Battle of Gagra  » Blog Archive   » Avid Technology

July 10, 2009 10:43 AM
 

Battle of Gagra » Blog Archive » Avid Technology said:

Pingback from  Battle of Gagra  » Blog Archive   » Avid Technology

July 10, 2009 10:43 AM
 

Chrome OS ??? A new Operating System from Google | Adobe Tutorials said:

Pingback from  Chrome OS ??? A new Operating System from Google | Adobe Tutorials

July 10, 2009 1:41 PM
 

Roy said:

It's true that with Gears and GMail, Calendar etc., Google has now made offline experience possible. Even for photo editing, Aviary.com offers a pretty slick (Flash based) solution. But I'm a firm believer in using the power of the hardware that we are nowadays capable of making. The richness, responsiveness and performance of applications like MS Office, of Adobe Photoshop cannot be beaten by the current tsunami of Javascript "wannabe" apps. If this is all that Chrome OS will support, I for sure will not be using it.

Nice blog post, totally agree with you.

July 10, 2009 1:50 PM
 

G_ Cox said:

I would imagine the new Google OS is basically a test. Something very simple and very informative; I would expect nothing more for the initial release and to do so would be certainly naive.

July 10, 2009 2:50 PM
 

Ron Grove said:

To say I'm unimpressed is an understatement.  I see no use for it whatsoever and blogged about it yesterday as well

techblog.rongrove.com/.../is-googles-chrome-os-really-threat.html

Seriously, when Apple introduced the iPhone developers instantly saw the possibilities, but there was no SDK.  Just browser apps.  Look what happened after they dropped the browser app only farse and gave developers an SDK to take advantage of the platform.  To me the success of the AppStore kills the idea of an essentially "browser only" platform being a roaring success.  The hype has been truly astounding...

July 10, 2009 5:04 PM
 

Monzer Emam said:

you are the man,I love your jokes

July 10, 2009 6:03 PM
 

Monzer Emam said:

--From POV Google OS is simplest reply from google to bing.

And starting by netbook give them chance to start in environment dosn't need full fledged OS.

--Also as main issue is Microsoft uses it position in OS market to deliver all other products even bing! so the only way is reduce their market share in that area.

--Finally this highlight one main fact that is "We still need a better OS from a better provider".

July 10, 2009 6:20 PM
 

Ron Grove said:

I don't see how a castrated OS using all browser apps is a better OS and I seriously question whether an advertising company is a better provider.  

If another OS comes to be a success, it'll be because it's truly revolutionary in some way.  A game changing way of dealing with things.  I expect it to come from outside the industry myself.  Something that looks completely nuts at first, but then suddenly takes the world by storm.  

July 10, 2009 10:06 PM
 

Marco Kummer said:

Google is starting to make the same mistake that many other companies have made before (history repeats itself...): Google is currently on a high wave and seems to think that they have to do everything. What started out to be the best search engine is now a map service, a video platform that is highly in deficit, and hundreds more. A "new" operating system definitely tops everything.. when are they going to start producing toilet paper or a competing sort of barbie dolls?

Remember Atari? Their excellent operating system for desktop computers mainly failed because everyone associated the name "Atari" with "games". Nobody ever took it seriously.

So when I hear "Google Chrome OS for netbooks", I will always think of a cute little system that can launch a web browser and that's pretty much it.  So if Google really wants to be taken seriously in this market, they should accordingly start with a serious operating system.

Google seems to think that the search engine battle has been won forever and that they can now focus on other things... but this could be a fatal mistake. I remember how Microsoft  split up the IE dev team after version 6, thinking that they had won the battle. And then came Firefox....

So my advice to Google: Do what you can do best and leave the rest to the other companies.

July 11, 2009 8:55 AM
 

Kris said:

As of today, Devexpress business is components for Microsoft technologies.

As a Dex Express subscriber, I come to your site to look at your implementatin of Microsoft Technologies.

If I need to know Apple OS, Google OS and IPhone features (which I have seen lot of in your blog site recently), there are plenty of places I can go to.

So p-l-e-a-s-e, spend your time to make your product better run on MS technologies.

July 11, 2009 7:55 PM
 

Brad Rembielak said:

"The real question is where are we getting DevEx components for Chrome OS 8-P"

That's an excellent point....except that we won't need any different DevEx components for Chrome OS!  Because Chrome OS is essentially browser-based, anything we run today over the web will work on it, so as developers, I'm not seeing what we'll have to do differently to our web-apps.

July 15, 2009 11:39 AM
 

Jon Robertson said:

Ron,

I remember two operating systems that did that for me:  AmigaOS and NextStep.  And while I was a huge Commodore/Amiga fanboy and initially thought AmigaOS could easily compete against OS/2 (and later Windows), it was NextStep that totally blew me away.  I walked away from that hands-on demo with the "Man, I can't wait!" excitement and enthusiasm that no other OS has even come close to matching.

Personally, a cloud OS just puts me to sleep.  I spend enough time waiting on web applications to respond.  I'll take a native version any day.

July 15, 2009 12:10 PM
 

Chris said:

@Kris

ASP.net runs on the open source implementation of .NET (and it does so quite well) meaning that ASP.NET will run on Chrome OS.

The problem I have with this article is that it is pure FUD.  No information is known about what will or will not be bundled with Chrome OS so statements like "Nope, can’t do that..." are pure MS garbage.

July 15, 2009 12:39 PM
 

Mahesh Mishra (IndianMahesh) said:

New baby always take time to walk! Let's see the progress!!

July 15, 2009 12:43 PM
 

GuyWithDogs said:

Didn't Microsoft have big problems with the EU because they bundled a browser with an operating system? How is Chrome OS going to be different? The comment re: "can you trust Google" is key - I know there are a lot of people who use Google apps as little as possible because of the apparent "snooping/data analysis" that goes on when you do use them. The targeted ads comment is dead on.

July 15, 2009 12:51 PM
 

Tim Schmidt said:

> p-l-e-a-s-e, spend your time to make your product better run on MS technologies.

Seriously, the dude's on vacation.

The real question is why you spent so much of your precious time reading this article.

July 15, 2009 3:02 PM
 

Francisco M said:

there will be one day when all the applications for your computer will be distributed online, and they will run on your web browser, will be accessible from anywhere as the same as your files, also updates, patches and services packs wont exists, we will forget what are .reg files for, install and uninstall words will apply only for hardware not software...wait.. some of these things are already possible...some others are not, at least not for the OS the majority use thought....so we have to try something else, something different, otherwise this will likely never happen.....

July 15, 2009 3:07 PM
 

Cody Skidmore_1 said:

@Chris,

I don't consider this article FUD.  Remember OS/2?

en.wikipedia.org/.../2

A key point is, Google has a lot to overcome.  Just delivering a Linux derivative isn't sufficient.  Under the covers, Linux is fabulous -- especially for ubergeeks.

I actually used Ubuntu, Dreamlinux, Suse, and other Linux versions.  I turned right back to Windows because I couldn't install/use Office 2007, Visual Studio 2008, and other familiar tools.  I also tried VirtualBox on Linux, BTW.

There are alternatives, but they suffer from useability issues (ignoring the fact that I don't want to switch off my existing tools in the first place).

If Chrome OS ran my current tools (and upgraded versions), yeah, I (and probably others) would be interested.  I don't see that happening though.  From every angle, a Windows alternative has to be as good or better.  OSX is a good example.

July 15, 2009 3:35 PM
 

Tomáš Linhart said:

Chrome OS will use Google Gears or HTML 5 technology to save offline content, so even without iternet you can work with your netbook.

July 15, 2009 4:48 PM
 

David Humpherson said:

Of all the blogs that I have read so far on this topic only one would have the motivation behind Chrome OS and that is to make us spend more time on the internet so that Google makes more through its advertising revenue.

I do not think that Google wants to replace the likes of Microsoft Windows but to make it irrelevant. If we end up doing all our computing in the cloud then the operating system that we use becomes irrelevent as long as it runs a We Browser.

July 15, 2009 9:05 PM
 

ben said:

I will have a look the Chrome, let's see.

July 16, 2009 1:13 AM
 

M.KASHIF said:

I think, there is a need of such a operating system, that will eliminate the dominance of Microsoft.

It will be a good addition in Linux Track Operating System.

July 16, 2009 4:49 AM
 

A Welshman said:

Eliminating the domination of microsoft will only be a good thing if the competitor can be compatible with microsoft technologies ie, win32, COM, .NET etc, so looks like Chrome OS is out.  

Besides, would you really want to replace one monopoly with another, especially if it's primary motive is to destroy to the competition?  Wait a minute, that's both companies!

July 16, 2009 4:05 PM
 

Chrome OS – Gary Short???s Opinion | I love .NET! said:

Pingback from  Chrome OS – Gary Short???s Opinion | I love .NET!

July 19, 2009 9:34 PM
 

Chrome OS – Gary Short???s Opinion | rapid-DEV.net said:

Pingback from  Chrome OS – Gary Short???s Opinion | rapid-DEV.net

July 20, 2009 3:16 AM
 

paulo larini_1 said:

This will be good for linux. Go Google, go!

July 20, 2009 6:31 AM
 

Phil said:

I have a comment on your last sentenc. There is no company on this planet that will give you all the services you get from Google (or Microsoft LIVE or Yahoo for that matter) for free without something financing it. They have employees to pay, company heads with mansions to maintain and mistresses to spend on and other expenses/bills. Google makes part of its money from what you mentioned and people are free to shun it if they want due to that. Now, does it prevent Google OS from being good or trust-worthy? I do not think so and your article has no given strong proof in this regard. I am a hard-core Microsoft guy and will probably will never touch the Google OS (I'll rather just play with other variants of Linux with less commerical-incentive behind.) However, we still have to be objective and fair when analyzing it. Give it time to shine or sink. You can say Microsoft OS would be nothing in 1979. Try saying that in 1996 when it had a monster market share and a huge hit. Let time be the judge.

July 24, 2009 12:26 PM

Leave a Comment

(required)  
(optional)
(required)  
Verification code: Required
   
Add
Copyright © 1998-2010 Developer Express Inc.
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED