ASP.NET MVC is now in a beta release. The components offered by DevExpress, with their reliance on view-state, are a poor match for the MVC framework. The last post I could find related to an official position on MVC was from May of 2008, which simply stated that support was under consideration. Can someone point me to more current information about the status of support for MVC?

So far, I haven't really found any information on how to write components for MVC, other than a lot of tutorials that guarantee me "full control over the HTML" so that I can "write whatever I like". Actually, I'd love it if I wouldn't have to implement a grid (or grid-like behavior) all by myself and am quite happy to rely on a component vendor for managing all of the Ajax that would be required for filtering, sorting, grouping, etc.

Is there a more official roadmap or statement from DevExpress vis-a-vis MVC?

Thanks!

 I am interested in MVC support as well. Perhaps you might create a support request item, so we can track it (and let DevEx know).

I doubt whether DX will support this. in the past i ask DX whether they support CAB and the answer was no, they dont.

The idea idea of ASP.NET MVC is fantastic.

 Saying just like that that they won't support MVC isn't fair. Wait for the no-support and then say it :-) Just kidding.

I am sure if there is enough request or they assume it is useful they'll provide it. So, either post here and/or track the suggestion S130258.

Thanks for creating an issue; I'm tracking it and hope that someone from DevExpress responds.

Miha Markic:

Saying just like that that they won't support MVC isn't fair. Wait for the no-support and then say it :-) Just kidding.

you got me there

Miha Markic:

I am sure if there is enough request or they assume it is useful they'll provide it. So, either post here and/or track the suggestion S130258.

 count me in. i'll track the issue

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"Jan Willem" wrote in message news:239644@community.devexpress.com...

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Just to clarify: ASP.NET MVC isn't released yet and it is being still under development, in fact, only lately it went beta.

Marco, et al

> ASP.NET MVC is now in a beta release.

Yes, that's right. Not released, in beta.

> The components offered by DevExpress, with their reliance on view-state, are a poor match for the MVC framework.

Of course they aren't a good match. They weren't developed for that framework since it didn't exist. I'd think that many ASP.NET controls out there would need a major refit to work with ASP.NET MVC.

As with all these things, it's a question of priority and of resources. We've been doing some internal investigation into what would be required to support ASP.NET MVC, but we're nowhere near ready or able or even willing to say anything about possible dates or content or anything. So, I'm afraid the official view is still "ASP.NET MVC support is under consideration".

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Thanks for creating the suggestion.   A set of MVC controls would be fabulous.   If I was at PDC2008, that would be my #1 question for the DevExpress developers at their booth.

Gary

Julian,

Is there no way at all to use controls such as ASPxTabControl or ASPxGridView inside a view page or partial?  I'm not looking for a miricle of elegance here.

I'd just like to know from your perspective if there's absolutely no way to fit the two together.  If there is, could you suggest a direction to take?

 Support should not be super difficult to imagine. Instead of viewstate (which most controls use) you could simply use a inpu type="hidden" to serialize the data that needed to be persisted. Additionally, I've experimented with creating controls (from scratch) like grids and the like and found that it was pretty easy (just a lot of work). I can't undertand why your talented developers can't conceive a way to retrofit your controls to MVC. After all, both frameworks simply render things to HMTL. The tricky part is how to handle AJAX postbacks (which in MVC is a lot easier to manage anyway). My blog (which I have not updated in a while) has some of these kinds of things implemented (http://www.sethjuarez.com). I don't think it is impossible, I just think it is a new framework and maybe there is a lack of understanding on how it works (it is not too different from the postback model, it's just more fine grained control). My 2 cents.

In fact, Telerik has been able to do some small modifications to their controls to get them to work under MVC. I don't understand why you guys cannot.