DevExpress Online Training Courses - A Refresh is On Its Way

Oliver's Blog
24 March 2020

Before I describe our plans for our three online training courses, I wanted to wish all of you the very best. Here’s hoping everyone is safe and in good health. We are in this together so if DevExpress can be of assistance, please do reach out to us and let us know how we can help in this difficult time.

As you already know, the event industry has been hit hard by the COVID-19 pandemic. Cancellations have affected many and our best wishes go out to those affected.

For those of us who plan, manage and attend developer events, the pandemic has forced us to reimagine our roles and responsibilities. Since we cannot attend live events, we’ve been asked to place all of our energy on improving educational content on DevExpress web properties. More to come on this later but for now, I’m hoping for feedback from those of you who’ve used our paid online tutorials.

Online Training

A few years back, we published 3 online training courses (WinForms, WPF, ASP.NET WebForms) and I updated two of those courses a little over 18 months ago. If you are unfamiliar with these online training courses, please visit:

https://www.devexpress.com/trainingcenter/#Courses

We are currently refreshing these courses and expect to publish updated versions shortly. Before we publish new versions, I wanted to reach out and ask for suggestions/feedback. I’d love to know how we can improve these courses to better serve your needs going forward. Please consider this an open-ended question. I’m happy to take all suggestions and feedback into account, including requests for new courses.

What’s New in v20.1

To explore the scope, breadth and capabilities of our new products/features, please visit: https://www.devexpress.com/Subscriptions/New-2020-1.xml.
22 comment(s)
Jacek Kosiński
Jacek Kosiński
there should be few free videos in each course to see if its worth pay for it. The welcome videos are not enough to familiarize with course content.
24 March 2020
Junior Thurler
Junior Thurler

+1 Vote for Jacek suggestion!


Another thing could be training on Xamarin Forms components using DX toolset.

24 March 2020
ASPMVCNewbie
ASPMVCNewbie
Howdy, show us what you got 
24 March 2020
Rubén Duarte
Rubén Duarte
Hi, you should offer some free courses, due to the economic impact by the COVID-19.  
25 March 2020
Tomas Rimkus
Tomas Rimkus
Do you have any plans to include DevExtreme (JavaScript, Angular & React) in the training courses?
25 March 2020
jerome crevecoeur
jerome crevecoeur

+1 for

DevExtreme (JavaScript, Angular & React)


and 


Aspnet Core :-)



25 March 2020
Jeff Stiegler
Jeff Stiegler

For $199 we get access to all WinForm classes, for example?

Agree with others that some courses should be made free so we can determine if they are worth the asking price.  Many of your videos on YouTube are not very good because presenter rushes through the topic at the speed of light which is not good for DevExpress beginners.

25 March 2020
Oliver Sturm (DevExpress)
Oliver Sturm (DevExpress)
Thank you for your suggestions, everybody. We will definitely consider all your points - please keep the ideas coming!
25 March 2020
Customer66219
Haryanto Na
if there are XAF training module and online license it would be better
25 March 2020
Customer66219
Haryanto Na
I mean online certification
25 March 2020
Piotr Stola [DevExpress MVP]
Piotr Stola [DevExpress MVP]
Hello there :)

Not sure if this is already in WinForms Course, but in MVVM part - I would add
topic related to communication/data exchange between modules.

Would love to see ASP.NET Core and Blazor courses.
26 March 2020
Kurt ...
Kurt ...
XAF Course please ... 
26 March 2020
jdubeau
jdubeau

 I'll send you an email Oliver.                        

26 March 2020
Mart-Consulting
MRTProject
XAF is realy interesting
31 March 2020
InfoOps
InfoOps

On the ASP.NET WebForms course, could you please add videos related to Deployment?  Do you copy the DevExpress DLLs to a server?  How do you know which ones?  Are there special IIS settings involved, etc.   I am a programmer/analyst that writes and supports business applications for a manufacturing company.  I am currently struggling through learning your new Responsive Web Application (which is awesome) to create a prototype for a desktop app re-write, but I have no idea how to deploy it. 

Also, please add something about Security.  Are there any special considerations for Security when using DevExpress controls and/or the Responsive Web Application?  I need to integrate with Active Directory users on my domain. 

Finally, can you keep alternative data access scenarios like micro-ORMs in mind when presenting the content on Data Access, etc.?  Not everyone is using EF.  I'm using Dapper.  It has millions of downloads so it's a popular option people are using.

I suspect these are very common concerns for developers in corporate environments.  Please take a look at your lesson plans and ask the question:  If a corporate developer is switching to ASP.NET Web Forms from desktop development, what things are they going to have questions about.  Maybe ask Mehul and the Support team what are the most common questions they are asked.  Thanks for doing this refresh!!

31 March 2020
InfoOps
InfoOps
My company has a PO in-process to buy the existing ASP.NET WebForms classes.   Should I put a hold on it until the refresh happens, or will the refresh material be immediately available.  Thanks for doing a refresh!!  If DevExpress had a live, online, instructor-led, hands-on 4-day training class for around $1,500, I would definitely get it funded and attend.  There are too many old YouTube videos that are outdated to parse through.
31 March 2020
Oliver Sturm (DevExpress)
Oliver Sturm (DevExpress)

Once more, many thanks for your feedback. I won't comment on individual suggestions at this time, but we will consider all your requests to make future plans.


@InfoOps - you get 12 months' access to the video course you sign up for, so if you purchase the ASP.NET WebForms course now you'll be able to see the updated content once it becomes available.

1 April 2020
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George N

Greetings. I agree with the comments above. 
We need more beginner-friendly videos. I've tried to learn as much as I could from the YouTube channel, but I think that those videos are targeted to more experienced audience. 
Is the online training more detailed? And of course, we need to see a preview of it, not just the welcome videos.

Thank you in advance

--George

2 April 2020
Larry Dimitri
Larry Dimitri

I've looked at the overview of the Webforms course and have to wonder how much information can really apply to beginners and even experienced users when courses sections are frequently less than a minute and generally not more than 1-2 minutes in length. For example, the listed Responsive Panels section is 1 minute and 51 seconds. I seriously have to question what I will learn that I can't see in the technical demos.

Comparing $199 for 3 hours of content seems very disproportionate when I can access the entire Pluralsight library for a year for under twice that amount

I'd much prefer if you would follow that model of having a progressive level of courses (beginner, intermediate, advanced) and consider just putting your content on Pluralsight. As a longtime DevExpress user there are things that I know well that I would appreciate a higher level course, and other things that I have not used were Beginner level might be appropriate to start with.

If DevExpress can't do it all in-house, maybe there are some existing developers that would be willing to partner in the endeavor as the Pluralsight platform would allow them to be compensated for creating courses that benefit the end user community and generates views.


 

4 April 2020
MILES GIBSON
MILES GIBSON

I purchased those videos, not once, but TWICE!  And twice after having access to them, you took them away again.  And frankly, most of them were so basic as to not be worth the fee to have them.

What I don't understand is why these videos are not available for free to folks with paid subscriptions.  As good as your support is, they are not available to walk me through scenarios in an on-demand context.

FWIW, M2CW

6 April 2020
vince stack
vince stack
An expert level course... tips tricks gotchas plus dedicated trading for larger widgets like schedulers. I would pay for it.
22 April 2020
InfoOps
InfoOps
I recently completed the existing ASP.NET class and today I just completed the WinForms section 1, specifically 01-10 Databinding through 01-13 Databinding Demo 3.   These four videos are extremely practical and I I would like to ask to see some of this in the ASP.NET series as well.  It's helpful to see a DevExpress person demonstrate the appropriate steps so I can nail down sound best practices on fundamentals.  Also, she showed did compare and contrast showing ADO.NET vs EF vs XPO.  Looking forward to your refreshes on these classes.
26 May 2020

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