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Visual Studio 2008 Slow In Design Mode

Using the ASPxGridView in the Visual Studio 2008 ASPX markup is slower than it should be due to an issue in the Visual Studio 2008 Intellisense. We've reported it to Microsoft and they've sent us a preliminary fix for testing. Unfortunately, it's not released and I don't have an expected release date yet.

At the heart of the issue is the number of properties that are supported by any control in VS2008. If a control, like the ASPxGridView, is rich in properties then the Visual Studio 2008 Intellisence code slows downs and spikes the CPU. Unfortunately, there isn't a workaround yet but we hope Microsoft will release the aforementioned update soon.

The good news is that we've tested the possible fix and it works very well. We're still doing some internal testing to verify this fix but we're confident that it solves the issue.

Thanks and I'll post the link to the official release as soon as its made available.

Published Jan 17 2008, 11:21 PM by Mehul Harry (Developer Express)
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Comments

 

Rory Becker [DX-Squad] said:

Good to know,.

Thanks very much

January 18, 2008 5:43 AM
 

Piero said:

I wonder why such a problem has passed the beta testing yours and Microsoft?

The IDE is not really usable.

January 18, 2008 6:52 AM
 

Jay conway said:

That is good news.  Looking forward to the fix.

January 18, 2008 9:18 AM
 

Claudio Piffer said:

That is good news!

Thank you very much

January 18, 2008 12:10 PM
 

CESAR F. QüEB said:

Nice to read this info... (the fix for the issue).... but... bad to read that VS2008 has some issues like the mentioned. I'm waiting some months more to make the migration to VS2008.

Regards

January 18, 2008 3:22 PM
 

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January 18, 2008 9:14 PM
 

MS Lim said:

Take a look at: forums.microsoft.com/.../showpost.aspx

We are all having the same issue when it comes to editing source of a webform,  Hope it gets fixed soon or we will be forced to revert back to vs 2005...

January 20, 2008 12:17 AM
 

Chris W Walsh said:

Thanks guys...

Its running like an absolute dog without the fix so fingers crossed M$ get it released soon!

January 20, 2008 4:49 PM
 

Dean said:

I really need this fix

January 25, 2008 9:11 AM
 

Greg said:

Good to hear a fix is coming.  Let's hope it's sooner than later....life is too short to deal with this sort of performance.

January 25, 2008 10:31 AM
 

Jason said:

Please do all you can to expedite the solution from MS.  It clearly is an MS issue, but you most know that it makes you both (DX and MS) look bad.  As a customer, I cannot justify spending money an a product that doesnt work for me, regardless of who is at fault.  Thanks

January 28, 2008 12:54 PM
 

Skippy Butternutty said:

Is it just me or is VS2008 a fat bloated pig? This thing takes longer to load than video games. 2MB of ram and it just churns and churns and churns, just to load small projects.

If it does require alot of loading, why doesn't MS put a dialog box up or some indication telling you what it is doing?

Hey MS, quit adding features and just optimize the code and give us better error handling and verbose notifications.

January 28, 2008 6:53 PM
 

Robert said:

Hi,

Yeah...I have found that 2008 slows down more and more.  A quick re-start usually solves the issue.  Also, only keep one page with a grid view open at a time.  Be nice once the patch is out.

2008 Loads very fast on my vista machine...so I'd think it's just you Skippy (1.5GB of RAM AND running a web server / SQL server).

January 30, 2008 1:52 PM
 

Jerry said:

VS 2005 was bad as well.  2008 takes it to a new level of bad.

For whatever reason, installing the latest expressapp release helped.  Not sure why, but that was forum post, and it did help everything, even though I'm not using it in my app.

I also note that like VS2005, VS 2008 has memory leaking issues, the longer you run the slower things get until you reboot.

I am thinking that a dual quad core with 32 gb of ram and striped 15K SAS drives MIGHT make VS2008 useable.  Just need to sell a lot more work...

January 30, 2008 4:00 PM
 

Crono said:

Funniest part is even though VS has a long history of malfunctioning, bugs and memory leaks... it still is an unavoidable tool, more helpful than restraining.

My thoughs on VS2008 is that it looks like 2005 on steroids. Some 2005 bugs seems to be gone by now, and apart from sluggish performance, I didn't notice any new major bug.

For that reason, I'm glad I migrated to 2008 already. I don't regret it a second.

Still, I understand and share the pain of many developpers here, and like them, I'm waiting for the next version of VS, asking myself "which bugs will be fixed by then?".

Ahhh, MS...

January 30, 2008 11:48 PM
 

stoat100 said:

Skippy: '2MB of ram and it just churns and churns and churns'

Maybe you need to pimp it up to 4Mb :)

February 7, 2008 4:29 AM
 

Charles matvchuk said:

Any word on the patch as of yet ?

February 7, 2008 11:28 AM
 

DM said:

February 8, 2008 10:05 PM
 

John said:

Nice....

but the fix doesnt fix anything unfortunatly....

February 15, 2008 4:01 AM
 

Bosse said:

Unfortunatly no... :(

February 15, 2008 10:41 AM
 

Jerry said:

After I reinstall Visual Studio 2008 and Hotfix, it also still insanely slow for me when ASPxGridView in my webform . I use DXperience 7.3.7 trial edition.

February 19, 2008 1:57 AM
 

Mehul Harry (Developer Express) said:

John, Bosse, & Jerry,

Please create a support ticket describing your exact environments, product versions, etc. and our team will look into it. Here is the link: www.devexpress.com/.../CreateIssue.aspx

Thanks.

February 19, 2008 9:01 PM
 

Anders Øyvind Sætre said:

I used an aspxgridview today, and discovered that my markup editing became slow. Searched and found this article. After installing the fix, markup typing is not hindered by any intellisense delays. Great!

March 17, 2008 7:35 AM
 

Charles said:

Alright, my performance never came back after the fix.... But then I was trolling and found this, not exactly sure why it works like it does but Visual Studio 2008 is instant on rendering saving, toggleing views and working on the markup.

IE7

Tools->Internet Options->Advanced->Security section-> uncheck "check for publisher's certificate revocation.........  Fast VS 2008 again.

March 21, 2008 5:48 PM
 

Mehul Harry (Developer Express) said:

Thanks Charles,

Is this the post you're referring to? http://tinyurl.com/2txsso

I'm glad it worked for you, however, there is a warning about disabiling this option if the machine has internet access.

Thanks.

March 21, 2008 6:22 PM
 

Charles said:

Yes that was the post.  On my dev machine I have done it and it works great.  Lesser of two evils imo.  1 minute toggle times between saves and views is draining the life out of me.

March 21, 2008 6:41 PM
 

Ross Glenn said:

Aaaaaarrrrgggg! Does anybody know of any way to tweak the vs2008 IDE. I have a huge project to complete and the larger it gets the slower the IDE gets. I have tried everything I can think of the speed it but nothing. I am dying here :(

P.S. The rollup was a faust.

June 11, 2008 9:08 AM
 

Mehul Harry (Developer Express) said:

Hi Ross,

I feel your pain and I'm sorry to hear about the issues. There is a VS2008 SP1 coming out but not sure when. In the meantime, you may try Scott Guthrie's tips for speeding up VS2008: http://tinyurl.com/5h5vm4

June 11, 2008 2:30 PM
 

Ross Glenn said:

Thanks Mehul for the reply. I have tried the SP1 Beta but to be honest I dont see any improvement in the actual performance of VS 2008. I installed VS 2005 again and compared the project in both versions. VS 2005  rocks compared to VS 2008 which confirms this has nothing to do with the third party controls. I have tried tweaking the IDE but as soon as i open the web form with the ASPxGridView I can go to lunch during the response times (largely over exaggerated of course but you get the picture).

Hope the final SP is completed soon.....

June 18, 2008 11:06 AM
 

Josh Korn_1 said:

I'll second Ross's comments, to a degree. I tried installing VS.2008 SP1 Beta specifically to try to solve this issue, but it didn't seem to produce any improvement whatsoever.

However, that being said, VS.2008 seems to perform better in my situation than does VS.2005.

What frustrates me right now is that I'm unable to do anything practical to speed things up, and even though I've presented the problem to DX support, they don't have any practical suggestions either, other than tell me to reduce the size of the page (difficult to do with an ASPxPageControl).

Is there a way to press the issue with Microsoft more forcefully?

June 30, 2008 9:30 AM
 

Mehul Harry (Developer Express) said:

Just a quick note to tell you that we’ve been working Microsoft to find and solve some of the reported issues. Microsoft has been good at getting resources and also digging into some of the problems.

It’s too early to report the results but I’ll keep you posted once we have some more information. Stay tuned.

June 30, 2008 2:49 PM
 

CW said:

Just having great fun dealing with Visual Studio 2008 even with the hotfix. I've come to the conclusion that MS must have given up performance testing or go through a user acceptance process.

What a complete pile of crap. It's about time MS got replaced their entire development team with individuals who have even the slighest concept of product quality.

Here's an idea rather than working round the clock to address serious issues, why not fix the issues before you release a product? Could it be that MS are entirely drivn by sales deadlines even if it screws the end user?

It's about time someone gave Steve B a kicking.

You name it, MS bloat it, from Vista now to Visual Studio.

I've upgraded my workstation to a quad core with 8gb of RAM and VS is still a dog.

July 8, 2008 2:19 AM
 

bob davis (ConexSys) said:

I'm in the same boat.  Tried ScottGu's hotfix... am planning on install the SP1 beta now.  Have a production-SLN with 3 projects (typical DAL, BAL, UI separation)... and vs2008 is driving me crazy.   I hope to hear something soon!

July 14, 2008 10:20 AM
 

Darryl Parker (Jetkey Software) said:

It appears that Microsoft finally fixed the problem.  I just now downloaded and installed Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 Service Pack 1 Beta and my slowness problems vanished without making any settings changes suggested above.  Saving large ascx and aspx files happens almost instantly and switching between Source and Design views in VS 2008 happens without delay.  Previously, I was experiencing agonizing delays that got longer and longer as the page size grew.  I'm now happy to report that the Service Pack 1 Beta has fixed the problem for me.

July 16, 2008 12:31 PM
 

KK said:

Darryl...Don't know what planet with futuristic lightspeed technology you're living on...

Installed the HotFix, nothing changed....watching the HTML Designer follow my keyboard strokes is more painful than watching paint dry!

Uninstalled the HotFix, Installed SP1 Beta instead...no dice...Now I'd just rather eat glass....

P4 2.8, 3GB Ram, Vista Ult

(Only reason I use Vista is for IIS7 compatability...else I'd be full time on XP).

July 18, 2008 12:06 PM
 

Robert said:

We just installed the lastest release of SP1 for VS 2008 and this had a definite improvement in the performance of this feature.  We were concerned this would not help based on the posts we have seen but it did have a big improvement for us.  We are still testing with this, but this look like it is a good fix for this right now.

August 6, 2008 11:31 AM

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